I started listening to James and Robbie’s podcast last year after seeing them live at the NEC talking about paper bottles.Working in the waste industry, I went in slightly nervous. There’s a lot of greenwashing out there, and I wasn’t sure what I was about to hear.Robbie’s laugh did catch me off guard at first… but I was pleasantly surprised by the podcast content.I recently did a 400-mile round trip and worked my way through more episodes, so it was great to have you both keeping me company.It’s the perfect mix of serious and funny, but the honesty is the best bit. Because if I see one more headline about a ‘recyclable’ material that disappears off the face of the earth a week later, I might have to go live in a cave.Keep being honest, keep calling things out, (keep laughing Robbie) and keep changing the world one material at a time.Naomi - Biffa