A podcast NOT to fall asleep to

After becoming frustrated at listening in chunks at bedtime and having to revisit where I left off, this is now my one and only 'daytime podcast'. So interesting and useful for anyone holding a piece of rubbish(or not) in their hands , hovering over the bins, wondering where it goes. I don't want to miss a minute of Robbie and James, and thoroughly recommend- as a daytime podcast.😀