Not for everyone, but some of us will love it

There are some things that I'll happily recommend to everyone I meet, safe in the knowledge that all sane people will love it.

This is not one of those things. Unashamedly nerdy, dives into the detail of a supremely unglamorous everyday industry. James makes terrible dad jokes and Robbie has a laugh that will make some people want to rip their ears off.

But I love it, and I've even grown an affection for Robbie's laugh. If anything, I wish it was a bit more nerdy and had more scientific rigour, but for now it brightens up my week when it drops on my podcast feed.

If you have an interest in what happens to your rubbish once you've put the bins out and a gap in your life for the scintillatingly dull, then give this a go. You might love it too.